Antique 1913’s Waltham Traveler movement 19209611 - Deconstruction
Movement Serial Number: 19209611 - Grade: Traveler
(Year of Manufacture: 1913) - Run Quantity: 2,000
Total Production: 398,550 - Size:18s - 42mm Dial - Jewels: 7j
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Movement Setting: Pendant - Plate: 3/4 Plate - Hairspring: Bregue
Waltham, Massachusetts - Pocket Watch – Model 1884
Movement no: 4523574 – 7 Jewel – Grade Hillside
Waltham, Massachusetts - Pocket Watch – Model 1884
(Year of Manufacture: 1890) Run Quantity: 1,000 - Size 14s - 41mm
Movement Configuration: Openface. Movement Setting: Pendant. Plate: ¾ Split Plate
Hairspring: Breguet – Adjusted: No. Brass Gilt movement
Winder position at 12 o/c
This watch was brought on eBay as not working, and come with a spare movement ring.
Tested the watch, does not wind (fully wound), pulled out the stem and the time adjustment works ok.
Markings on the inside of the case
English Case
Expressly made for
CYMREX
Patent no 139453
GUARANTEED
To wear 10 years
Deconstruction of Movement to find out as why the movement is not working.
Remove the front bezel and was pleased to find the watch dial in excellent condition, the marks showing are on the acrylic crystal.
Movement is a little loose in the case, remove the bezel and movement rings from the case, will have to adjust the movement ring. Also noticed two screws missing from the movement, which need to be replaced.
Removed hands and dial from movement, note: dial held on by two circlips. Removed the dial washer and Hour Wheel.
Turned over the movement and tried to release the power in the mainspring, but could not unjam the click spring, so removed the balance completely.
Hey presto the answer to why the movement does not work is obvious, the pallet forkhead is broken. Try to move the pallet fork back and forth to the bank pins, and the train wheels seem ok.
Removed the barrel bridge and carefully removed it and held down the barrel. So to release the power in the mainspring I remove the pallet fork while holding the barrel, then release the power slowly, and the train wheels run freely.
So a replacement pallet fork will need to be found, also the pallet fork jewels are chipped and one loose. Plus on close inspection the roller jewel on balance is also broken, so that needs replacing.
Next on the agenda was to remove the complete barrel, this movement is unusual as the ratchet wheel and the click etc are under the barrel! So will need to work out a plan on how to replace the barrel back in the movement while the Ratchet wheel and the click and spring are already in place.
Dismantle the barrel remove the arbour and take out the mainspring. The last person to replace the mainspring must have replaced by hand, and not by using a mainspring winder because the mainspring does not lie flat on the bench. So I will fit a new mainspring.
Remove the click, spring and ratchet wheel and It seems that the last person to work on the movement seemed to use grease on everything, as all the items are covered in it, and stick to the mainplate and to the bench when removed!
Now time to remove the train bridge, and then remove all the wheels, checking the pivots as I do and all are ok.
Video of testing the Winding and Setting mechanism
The last item to remove from the mainplate is the stem and setting mechanism
Now the deconstruction is complete and all parts of the movement and watch case are ready for the cleaner.
I have named this project "Peaky Blinders" watch
after the popular TV series in the UK. Where the gang wear flat hats with razor
blades sewn into the peak, using them to blind their enemies. Plus all the main
characters wear Pocket Watches.
The Pocket Watch is an unusual one being a Smiths
"Braille" watch with an "A1866" watch movement, which I
will try and renovate.
Notice that the 12 o/c on the dial is at the 9 o/c position.
12 o/c on the dial is at the 9 o/c position.
It also has a Silver Albert chain, which I need to Silver
solder the jump rings, etc.
Put the two together and you have a “Peaky Blinders” watch.
Smiths Braille pocket watch A1866 movement deconstruction
Order of deconstruction: Remove case screws. Release the
stem buy undoing setting screw next to "15 Jewels" marking. Remove the
front bezel to release movement from the case. Hands removed, Dial removed, Dial
washer and hour wheel removed. Remove Keyless works. Remove the Pinion, Minute
Wheel and intermediate wheel. Remove the Clutch and Setting wheel. Turn
movement over and undo the setting screw to release the setting lever.
Keyless works
Turn movement over: Remove the complete bridge. Remove the
click and spring. Remove Pallet Cock and Pallet Fork. Remove the Train Bridge. Remove
Escape and Third wheels. Remove Train Bridge with the stuck Centre wheel
attached. Remove Crown wheel from the Train Bridge. Ease out the stuck centre
wheel from the Train Bridge. Remove Third wheel, Ratchet wheel and complete
barrel. Remove the Setting screw from the mainplate. Remove Arbor from the mainspring.
Remove the mainspring from the Barrel.
Deconstruction completed and all the parts ready for the
cleaner.
Session two today in my workshop with
the TIM LEVER 7 Jewels Shock Protected Stopwatch.
Today I have removed the Seconds Hand from the Long Tube Heart. I needed to remove the second hand because I am hoping the NOS Breitling
45mm Dial I have purchased fits this watch.
Removed
the tight fit Seconds Hand by slipping the Heart into the “vee” on the block to give maximum
support to dial, and using flat head No:290 Bergeon Stake and Dial protector and two light taps with a hammer, hey
presto off and no damage!
Stripped the Barrel down, and the mainspring and barrel really clean for
a 1970s watch.
Also found a crown that I may use for The Fly-Back pusher, but
may make one when I have the lathe set up to make the broken pusher.
Waltham Pocket Watch Model 1883 - Movement 8911964 deconstruction
7 Jewels (Screw Set) – Grade: A.W.Co.
(Year of Manufacture: 1898) Run Quantity: 7,000 - Size 18s - 42mm
Movement Configuration: Open Face. Movement Setting: Key. Plate: Full Plate
Hairspring:Breguet – Adjusted: No.
Movement Finish: Brass (Gilt). Winder on back (Key)
Hour Hand on a good Dial.
Movement dust cover. No
Deconstruction video made up of photographs from stripdown of the movement.
On stripping down this scrap movement I found the following items that need attention.
Firstly the whole movement is rusted up, the mainspring and balance wheel did not move.
During the deconstruction, I found the mainspring had been fully wound up and this caused the click to be jammed on ratchet wheel, plus the barrel was stuck to the barrel bridge by dried out grease!
After carefully taking and train wheels out from the movement due to them being very tight in the pivot holes, it is clear the whole movement had been over oiled, and because the movement had not been used for a long in oil had dried out and everything had become stuck.
One Dial and case screws are missing, and the roller table on the balance staff is loose.
So now the movement is completely stripped down to its fifty-nine parts, it’s time to clean all the items well.
A badly damaged dial on this movement which will have to be
scrapped, I have spare dials to use as a replacement. Only two hands on this
movement (Hour and Minute) removed. Dial removed from movement and measured (Dial
Size: 42mm) and put in scrap box!
Dial Washer, Hour Hand, Minute Wheel and Cannon Pinion
removed. Remove the badly dented dust ring then measure movement size (41mm)
and Movement height (6.5mm).
Remove complete balance (Balance wheel, Hairspring, Balance
Cock a Regulator), Remove Hairspring from Balance Wheel and check it.
Try to let down Mainspring, but winding stem will not move,
so while keeping slight pressure on the stem I remove the Click, still no
movement from mainspring Barrel! Remove Ratchet and Crown Wheels and then the
Barrel Bridge. Pull out Barrel Arbor, on this model of Waltham the Mainspring
end is attached to Barrel lid so Arbor just slides out. Now I remove the
complete Barrel.
Try to move Train Wheels and cannot move them, Remove Pallet
Bridge and Fork, try again and still no movement in train wheels!
Remove the Train Bridge, then the Train Wheels (Centre, Third,
Second (Fourth) and Escape Wheels. Then remove the Keyless Work and setting
lever.
Turn over Main Plate to remove the screw for the Winding
Work, lift out the intermediate wheel and Winding Work drops out from Main
Plate.
So the deconstruction is completed, so now to clean all the
parts and check what faults to correct before assemble. (See assembly
photograph album).
Well, another busy day in the workshop as I stripped down the last of my "Ebay" won Model 1908 Waltham pocket watches. This being the fourth movement (Movement No: 22863520) and was manufactured in 1919, and is a higher grade (625) 17Jewels, but as I deconstructed the movement I found a lot of issues to rectify!
Model 1908 Waltham 17 Jewels Movement 22863520 Deconstruction
I had to strip down the movement in a slightly different way to my normal routine.
On the Dial side, its normal routine set the hands at 12o/c then remove all hands, unscrew the dial from movement and remove dial. Measure the dial (42mm) then remove Hour, Minute Wheels (No Dial washer) Remove Cannon Pinion.
On the movement side after measuring the movement (41.5mm), first I remove the complete balance, the top pivot of the balance wheel broken and the hairspring is missing along with the Hairspring stud screw, plus on closer inspection, the impulse roller jewel is broken off and missing.
Could not let down the mainspring by keeping the click out of way, as the mainspring was FULLY wound and could not move the barrel, so while holding the stem, I remove the click and slowly let down the mainspring.
Now I remove the Pallet Bridge and Pallet fork, then I replace the click so I could wind up the mainspring a bit. Mainspring wound up, but no movement in the train wheels!
Next, I remove the Train Bridge, and the Escape wheel is stuck in the bridge, carefully remove Escape wheel from Train Bridge, on closer inspection both pinion's on Escape wheel look fine, but I did notice that the Escape wheel has slipped on its shaft.
So now back to the Click, Crown, and Ratchet Wheels are removed, along with the Mainspring barrel, after removing the Centre Wheel first. The rest of the train is removed (Third, Second (Fourth) Wheels.
Next, remove the Keyless Work; I do notice that on this Waltham Model 1908 “Grade 625” movement it is on the right-hand side of the stem, where on the Waltham Model 1908 “Grade 610” movements it’s on the left-hand side of the stem. While removing the Keyless I notice the setting lever spring was magnetised (I have demagnetised that).
Lastly remove the winding, sliding pinions, and the movement stem, by unscrewing the screw on the dial side of the mainplate.
Check the Jewels in the Mainplate and Bridges, find the centre wheel jewel in the train bridge cracked, so needs replacing. The deconstruction now completed its time to clean all the parts and check again for any more faults.
Waltham, Massachusetts - Pocket Watch – Model 1908
Movement no: 23843623 – 7 Jewel – Grade No 610
(Year of Manufacture: 1920-21) Run Quantity: 1,000 - Size 16s - 43mm
Movement Configuration: Hunting. Movement Setting: Pendant. Plate: ¾ Plate
Hairspring: Breguet – Adjusted: No. Engraved steel movement
Winder position at 3 o/c
Only a second hand on the good dial.
After the deconstruction, the only problem I found, is that the Centre Wheel shaft was broken at the Pinion end. So I will need to need a replacement or make a new one!
